Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Since I was brought here to spew Conservative Jewish propaganda....




Looks like Obama will be a great friend to Israel.





NYC Mayor knows what's up (the second one's from CNN because I know everyone here thinks FOXNEWS is the worst thing in the world. See the second Bloomberg link....6:05...Obama's quote about his children...very well put).

God Bless America
Am Yisrael Chai

Peace out, War in

That's it for News for Jews today

4 comments:

  1. That second video is so horrible.
    If you were trying to defend Israel, I would not recommend using that clip.
    At around the 1:34 mark, Bloomberg says something along the lines of ‘everyone should have a right to live their lives without fear of being attacked by who ever.’

    He says we should stop killing each other, which is something that terrorists are determined to do.

    His words honestly make Israel look just as guilty and bad as Hamas.

    This video doesn't really address why Palestinians are attacking or the fact that so many Palestinians are CURRENTLY being killed -- viciously -- by Israel.

    I support Israel, but I don't understand why no one is talking about the real issues here. I understand why Israel is attacking, and I understand that Hamas surrounds themselves with civilians, making it impossible for civilians to not die.

    But that doesn't mean it's acceptable and it doesn't mean that Palestinians deserve being attacked like that.

    I don’t support Hamas, but I don’t support people being slowly tortured to death from a lack of food, warmth, water, electricity, medical supplies, etc.

    But, I must admit that I can’t imagine any sort of solution.
    And I don’t like that Israel is basically being blamed for issues that should have been solved and rectified by Arab nations.

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  2. My money's on WWIII

    samschac, your blog is sweet.

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  3. I think the second clip is great. I don't understand what is "so horrible" about it. Bloomberg couldn't be more correct.

    "He says we should stop killing each other, which is something that terrorists are determined to do.

    His words honestly make Israel look just as guilty and bad as Hamas."

    I disagree. Let's look at the quote again:

    "We just have to find ways in 2009 to stop killing each other, which unfortunately, the terrorists seem to be determined to continue to do so."

    The terrorists being determined to continue to kill does not make Israel look bad at all. Your argument does not quite follow through there.

    Explain what you mean by "real issue."

    And if we were being bombed by Canada constantly would you make sure that before we struck back, that they had proper supplies, food, and running water?

    And how are so many Palestinians being viciously killed by Israel?

    The innocent people in Sderot aren't being viciously killed? I wonder what it would be like to live everyday knowing that a bomb will most likely hit in or around my house. Some of my family who live in Ashdod were forced to leave because of a Qassam rocket that hit 4 houses over from them. They're both over 80. So when innocent civilians are being killed, don't forget about the day-to-day killings and attacks that happen in Israel.

    The only reason Hamas is in control now is due to Israel pulling out all of their own people a few years ago from the Gaza Strip. Many families left so that it would be a solely Arab area. Because of this many Arabs have killed their own people. Hamas has killed many Fatah (PLO) members, and Israel was not able to help them during the cease-fire.

    Israel is the only country to ever give back land in a war in order for peace. Did the US give California back to Spain or Texas back to Mexico, or the entire country back to the Native Americans for peace? No. No one gives back land won in wars to the losing side. Except Israel. And it really is a danger for them to do so. This is how willing they are for peace.

    You haven't really said much to me. You only attempt to dispute what I have to say. Thanks for the input.

    Stirring things up as always,

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  4. Yo man, I’m sorry. Not for what I said, but for you possibly taking what I said as a personal attack. That was not my intention.

    The way I have come to understand and view this Israel/Hamas/Gaza Strip issue is by trying to understand various points of view. At this point I feel that the best way for me understand what is going on is through discourse.

    The brief history you provided has been something that I have been going over and over. When the ceasefire first broke I began a journey to understand the history of events that has lead up to the current state of things.


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    “"We just have to find ways in 2009 to stop killing each other, which unfortunately, the terrorists seem to be determined to continue to do so."

    The terrorists being determined to continue to kill does not make Israel look bad at all. Your argument does not quite follow through there.”


    What I mean is, Bloomberg’s words send a message that I have interpreted as ‘terrorists are determined to continue to kill’ and both sides (Hamas and Israel) are still killing people.

    I appreciate your interpretation though, because on my own I would not have been able to see it that way.

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    “Explain what you mean by "real issue."”


    What I mean is, Palestinians have been kept as refugees by their Arab “allies.” There are third and fourth generation Palestinian refugees living in Arab nations who have yet to be offered citizenship. So, it does seem as though these Arab nations keep the Palestinians as refugees to keep them angry at Israel, to keep the problem going.

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    “And if we were being bombed by Canada constantly would you make sure that before we struck back, that they had proper supplies, food, and running water?”


    Canada is a country. Yes, the Gaza Strip has been given the opportunity to become a Palestinian state but has instead become a militarized state devoted to the destruction of Israel. But what this also means is that the Gaza Strip has become dependent on Israel for supplies and such, besides the many tunnels. Canada is a developed country; the Gaza Strip is a much smaller place with much less resources.

    Also, that isn’t even a fair example. You are completely disregarding context. Context has so much to do with what is going on, it has so much to do with everything.

    Canada is not being held or confined by the United States. Israel has had to face diversity for basically forever, the United States, not so much.

    I really don’t understand why you would even try to use Canada bombing the United States as an argument or fair representation of things. It is not a fair representation of things at all; it doesn’t make much sense, and is almost offensive.

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    “And how are so many Palestinians being viciously killed by Israel?

    The innocent people in Sderot aren't being viciously killed? I wonder what it would be like to live everyday knowing that a bomb will most likely hit in or around my house. Some of my family who live in Ashdod were forced to leave because of a Qassam rocket that hit 4 houses over from them. They're both over 80. So when innocent civilians are being killed, don't forget about the day-to-day killings and attacks that happen in Israel.”


    I never said that Israelis aren’t dying or living in fear. It goes both ways.

    I have no intention of attacking you, your family, or your ideas and beliefs. I am just sharing my own thoughts, opinions, and views. Even though I do not know you, I do respect you.

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    “The only reason Hamas is in control now is due to Israel pulling out all of their own people a few years ago from the Gaza Strip. Many families left so that it would be a solely Arab area. Because of this many Arabs have killed their own people. Hamas has killed many Fatah (PLO) members, and Israel was not able to help them during the cease-fire.”


    I know. Israel could no longer afford to protect the Jewish settlers there. I know. And I know that Israel -- with the help of the Clinton administration -- gave Yasser Arafat the opportunity to have a Palestinian state (Oslo Accords).

    The PLO’s platform was to have a two state solution: Israel + Palestine. Yasser Arafat couldn’t bite the bullet, couldn’t make the deal. He knew that if he made the deal, the Arabs would kill him (because that would mean they would be accepting that Israel exists).

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    “Israel is the only country to ever give back land in a war in order for peace.”


    What? I can’t even touch this right now.

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    “Did the US give California back to Spain or Texas back to Mexico, or the entire country back to the Native Americans for peace? No. No one gives back land won in wars to the losing side. Except Israel. And it really is a danger for them to do so. This is how willing they are for peace.”


    Yeah I’m not ready to touch this statement either.

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    “You haven't really said much to me. You only attempt to dispute what I have to say. Thanks for the input.

    Stirring things up as always [.]”


    Hi, I’m Emily.

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